.
Feedback

Poll: Is It Time to Ban All Fireworks Sales?

A story this week on Pacifica's Patch suggests far higher risks of injuries on the 4th of July to children living in cities with lenient fireworks laws. Yet Pacifica and San Bruno continue to sell 'safe and sane' explosives.

 

Perhaps we were lucky this year.

Unless something went unreported, it appears San Mateo County went without any severe injuries or fires during the 4th of July holiday.

Foster City and Redwood City held successful fireworks shows, and individuals and families could buy 'safe and sane' fireworks legally in and .

"Safe and sane fireworks don't exist," says Dr. John Hall, National Fire Protection Association's Division Manager of Fire Analysis and Research. "When things go wrong with fireworks, they go very wrong, very fast, far faster than any fire protection provisions can reliably respond."

, "Legal fireworks have been a way of life in Pacifica for decades, with voters supporting their sale by resounding majorities on at least two occasions over the past 20 years. Mayor Pete DeJarnatt cites a libertarian streak among the city's electorate as a contributing factor in a laissez-faire towards fireworks laws."

A blogger for the L.A. Times suggests 'safe and sane' fireworks sales are a bad idea, and cited an old Pediatrics Journal study that showed "children who live in communities with more lenient fireworks laws are seven times more likely to be injured than kids living where the laws are stricter."

The NFPA points out that of the thousands of serious fireworks-related injuries each year, most are reported in areas where fireworks are legal. The non-profit group says sparklers, considered by many to be harmless, reach temperatures of more than 1,000° F.

"Fireworks are dangerous and unpredictable, especially in the hands of amateurs," says Judy Comoletti, NFPA's Division Manager of Public Education. "The few seconds of pleasure those fireworks may bring are not worth the risk of injury, permanent scarring, or even death."

Our Patch readers weighed-in on the sale of 'safe and sane' fireworks.

"I'm appalled that towns in San Mateo County continue to sell fireworks, no matter how "safe and sane.". Anything that explodes, no matter how small, is insanely dangerous in this tinder-dry, wooded environment. Surely there's a better way to finance a Little League," said one reader.

Another reader had a different take: "I just wanna say live a little pledge allegiance to your flag, honor and celebrate your beautiful country for a night or two! Remember the sacrifice your ancestors made so that you could enjoy these days the way you do. Light a sparkler, an m1000 or a mortar put your hand over your heart and look in the sky as you scream the pledge of alligiance. I have six children I reside here in San Bruno . We love to watch all the illegal fireworks all night."

What do you think? Should 'safe and sane' fireworks be banned? Are they too dangerous, especially for kids who may risk permanent injuries? Or are Pacifica and San Bruno creating more good than harm by allowing the sales of the fireworks, with profits helping groups like Little League teams that struggle in this economy? Is it simply our right to have the opportunity to do as we wish?

Let us know in the comments below. Then vote in our poll.

Buck Shaw July 9, 2012 at 04:30 pm
Dear Resident withopinions;
The School system teaches "Diversity" the DIFFERENCE between races and cultures. So naturally we learn to call each other "Racists". And thanks to the schools and PC I now know why I am different from They,Them,He,She, it. I wasn't brought up that way. Neither were most Boomers but we're sure learning and being blamed all the time. It was even our fault for the Mortage Thing all those 55 year olds buying there first house you know!
Carol J Swindell July 9, 2012 at 04:47 pm
I worry every year there will b e a fire started because in all that wind, they are still shooting them high in the sky. I don't blame the police for staying away. These people are nuts , I water my yard on July 4th to try and prevent fire. I had a pile of bottle rockets picked up in my back yard but finally threw them out last year.
Lou Covey, The Local Motive July 9, 2012 at 04:58 pm
From this discussion I think it is pretty clear that banning fireworks sales throughout the bay area will do nothing to control the illegal fireworks that cause most of the injuries and fires.
Jim C July 9, 2012 at 07:29 pm
Part of the problem is that there's no sense of degree anymore. it's as if we have to say that either everything is OK or nothing is OK. This is the logical endpoint when more and more of our community lack civility and common sense.
Because I don't have a problem with a family doing some "safe and sane" non-aerial fireworks in the street in front of their home at 10pm. But that's different than doing it at midnight. Just as a pack of firecrackers is a lot different than an M-80 or M-1000. There's no reason that any of us should be subjected to that sort of aural assault...it used to be that a cherry-bomb was pushing the limit. Still, I guess I should count myself lucky. Nobody in my neighborhood was shooting guns the air.
whereslelie July 9, 2012 at 08:26 pm
Jim C:
I am looking for the the little movie review guy jumping out of the chair applauding! Precisely! ("..there's no sense of degree anymore" and "either everything is OK or nothing is OK.") How and when did that happen? I have my opinions on that and will choose to resist posting them here.
Summer Hemphill July 9, 2012 at 09:36 pm
I didn't know that they sold fireworks for Cinco de Mayo,but since they don't it's pretty much self-explanatory isn't it ? I don't remember Hispanics shooting off fireworks on Columbus Day or Saint Patrick's Day either,so if your comment isn't racially motivated you certainly appear to be ! I'm sure that most people given the choice would prefer a few days of noisy fireworks to years of living next door to you !
Summer Hemphill July 9, 2012 at 09:46 pm
Some people like fireworks so they defied state law by using them knowing it's illegal to do so ! Palo Alto's elected leaders dislike medical marijuana dispensaries so they banned them in defiance of state law knowing it's illegal to do so ! I guess all in all from the top down the people of Palo Alto have little respect for the law or those who choose which ones to enforce & which ones to ignore !
residentwithopinions July 9, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Oh Summer I'm sorry that my comment was over your head, because Cinco de Mayo is Mexican Independence Day and 4th of July is the US's Independence day so I am comparing apples to apples not apples to oranges like you are with your Colombus and St Patty's day comment. I hate to have to write this but just so you know, we have the most maintained property on our street, we pay our bills on time, definitely pay our "fair share" of taxes, and I vote and it won't be for Obummer, so yeah you probably wouldn't want to live next to me.
Justin July 9, 2012 at 11:35 pm
Residentwithopinions: Cinco de Mayo is NOT Mexican Independence Day. That date is September 16th. So, before you insult someone else you need to check your own ignorance.
Lou Covey, The Local Motive July 10, 2012 at 12:10 am
Always amazes me how people can turn a relatively local issue into decisive national polemics.
Lou Covey, The Local Motive July 10, 2012 at 12:13 am
Make that devisiive.
Lou Covey, The Local Motive July 10, 2012 at 12:16 am
So let's get back on track. Safe and sane fireworks are not the primary problem. Skyrockets, explosives and gunfire is. How does a ban on safe and sane fireworks deal with the other kind?
residentwithopinions July 10, 2012 at 01:17 am
I am quite aware that it is not the Independence day but it is a day celebrating Mexico just like the 4th is a day we celebrate the US....whatever...Lou you're right..I'm done.
Rick Eymer July 10, 2012 at 02:17 am
http://sancarlos.patch.com/articles/teenagers-arrested-on-suspicion-of-brush-fire
Steve Hayes July 10, 2012 at 02:17 am
residentwithopinions
You sound like a very confused person- at 6:45 you said "I'm sorry that my comment was over your head, because Cinco de Mayo is Mexican Independence Day and 4th of July is the US's Independence day so I am comparing apples to apples" and then then less than three hours later you said "I am quite aware that it is not the Independence day". Keep the safe and sane fireworks!
Teri Leigh West July 10, 2012 at 02:44 am
A ban won't stop it. Get it? Instead why don't you teach safety with fireworks. Those safe and sane sparklers shoot actual flames. How can that be better than the old fashioned sparklers? I'm against safe and sane sparklers. I miss the old days.
hutch July 10, 2012 at 03:15 pm
I think I could agree with a ban on the beaches and in the hills.
But banning them all together no. You know, there is a small percentage of people who hate celebrating anything about this country.
DanC July 10, 2012 at 04:40 pm
C'mon Buck. Where did I say that? Lemme say it again: Banning doesn't stop anything...just like Prohibition...or Prohabition for that matter. Republicans make political hay out of the War on Drugs even though they know it has failed miserably, right from the start.
Cheryl Dickinson July 10, 2012 at 04:56 pm
Yes please BAN all fireworks. For many reasons all listed above (fire danger, wildlife danger, domestic pet danger, house fires, personal injury, child danger, trash liiter, marine life danger) and more! Too many people misusing them and sadly ruined it for the rest. Leave it to the professionals, lets pay a little property tax and get a professional display over the beach instead! The school can run booth to sale food and non firework stuff at the beach for people to enjoy! I saw fire work trach in teh gutter just last night near the Trinune at Pacific Manor, sad. To me people actly poorly!
Barb N. July 10, 2012 at 05:55 pm
BAN them all! They frighten all animals and are dangerous in so many ways. Truly hate how they are allowed!!
Steve Sinai July 10, 2012 at 06:00 pm
Ban 'em.
CL July 10, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Drugs are illegal...people still use them
Cigarettes are legal....they probably cause more fires than fireworks do Ban 'em if you want...you are still going to see them and hear them regardless.
whereslelie July 10, 2012 at 11:02 pm
@CL - You're right. However, if we continue to allow one group to make decisions or policies we will evetually have lost all of our freedoms, or perhaps more appropriately stated; taken away from us. Enough is enough!
ian butler July 11, 2012 at 01:10 am
One point to keep in mind, the majority of those loud explosions that you hear around town are "safe and sane" Piccolo Petes that have been disassembled and put into a 2 liter soft drink bottle. The kids around town all know how to do this.
jen July 11, 2012 at 01:31 am
Judging from the amount of illegal fireworks that went off in the Linda Mar area on the 3rd as well as the 4th, and the money that amount of illegal fireworks must have cost, Pacifica has no need for fundraisers to help our schools. While we are selling the safe and sane, our teenagers are buying the illegal stuff. Why don't we just tell our students they have to fund their own activities and then they won't have the money to spend on the dangerous fireworks. Doesn't it seem non productive that mom and dad are taking time out to fundraise while the kids is out spending money to buy the illegal stuff? What is the message here parents?
jen July 11, 2012 at 01:47 am
Your comment about the police staying away to me is the scariest part of 4th of July. We called a couple of years ago regarding a neighbor setting off bottle rockets from the roof of his house. The police said it was a "he said, she said situation" and left it to us to work it out. How long until people take matters into their own hands if the police refuse to do anything? 5 citations this year clearly is telling us the police are not useless on 4th of July.
momof2 July 11, 2012 at 02:09 am
To tell you the truth, I witnessed more illegal fireworks going off in the back of Linda Mar than the safe and sane fireworks. And it was middle aged men lighting them with reckless regard for neighbors, pets and homes nearby.
Mike July 11, 2012 at 05:18 pm
The root cause of the fire works issue be it the safe and sane variety or other types is the inability of some people to be safe and the question of sanity where a few others are concerned. Then again that thought process can be applied to many things in our society.
Buck Shaw July 12, 2012 at 11:48 am
Gee Lou last time I checked Independace Day and celebrating IS a national issue. I see the connection to local fireworks ban.
Lou Covey, The Local Motive July 12, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Buck, Whether we celebrate it is a national issue. HOW we celebrate it is a local issue. that's what this discussion is about. What is really interesting is I know as many Republicans as I do Democrats who think fireworks should be banned altogether, and as many who think there should be no ban, just regulation. It's the one issue that truly crosses party lines.

Newsletter & Alerts

Get the best stories each day and important breaking news

Subscribe

Not from Pacifica Patch? Find your Local Patch »

Note Article
Just a short thought to get the word out quickly about anything in your neighborhood.
Share something with your neighbors. Write a new post... What's up? Make an announcement, speak your mind, or sell something
Christa Bigue (Editor) June 16, 2013 at 08:44 am
Good question. Maybe the Chamber of Commerce knows? I'll send an email to them.
Peter Beck June 17, 2013 at 08:18 am
The stickers are for sale at Gorilla BarBQ and cost $ 1.50 each
Christa Bigue (Editor) June 17, 2013 at 04:46 pm
The Pacifica Chamber of Commerce says that "the only person that might is John the Sign Guy.Read More 650.369.1626. Other than that, the Dollar Store in Linda Mar is looking into getting some Pacifica souvenirs. Maybe she’ll order some bumper stickers."  
Jeni June 12, 2013 at 05:49 pm
That's awesome....I love books but I love to bake cakes more. I wish that I lived closer toRead More Pacifica! How fun.
Denise Marcucci June 13, 2013 at 12:17 pm
Yummy! What a great idea. I better peruse my bookshelf for some ideas!
For those who felt the English sign was cropped.. here is the entire pole
Tim June 11, 2013 at 06:20 pm
There is an easy explanation... the water is perfectly potable for English speakers.
Ron Knutson June 13, 2013 at 01:06 pm
Bren, Then I must be brain damaged because I don't read Spanish... However, no problem, as someoneRead More who was raised speaking English I read the sign in Mandarin.
Edward sawacki June 17, 2013 at 12:56 pm
Bren, No need to vent your pent up anger at white people. Your statement is a perfect example ofRead More reverse racism. We live in an country where there are different races and different languages but the native language is English and to omit that language from any sign that was paid for by tax payers is a slap in the face. This has nothing to do with demographics or race wars. Take a step back, breath, and stop spreading your hate rhetoric.
admin May 31, 2013 at 12:56 pm
The owner of Granucci's was diagnosed with cancer and is undergoing treatment. Her brother owns theRead More Farmer's Market so you can get updates on her condition from him.
Hnin May 24, 2013 at 06:31 pm
Please help share it on your facebook as well. Anything to find our cat.Read More http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/laf/3825190526.html
Loring Slivinski June 3, 2013 at 03:52 pm
Don't forget to put up posters at the local pet stores, veterinary hospitals, groomers, etc. LostRead More pets are brought into our hospital all the time. Also, be sure to check with the Peninsula Humane Society daily, in case he was picked up and taken there. Good luck finding kitty!