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Sharp Park Golf Course Dispute Makes the Wall Street Journal

The internationally read paper gives an overview of the controversy over alleged Endangered Species Act violations at the Pacifica landmark.

 

between golfers, the City of San Francisco and environmentalists has made it into the national press again. 

Wall Street Journal writer Bobby White recently overviewed the allegations by environmental groups that golf course activities are killing threatened and endangered species, the response by the city and golfers and the progression of the subsequent lawsuit filed last March.

Recently, the legal case by Federal Judge Susan Illston until October. 

What is your current impression of the controversy and lawsuit surrounding the 80-year-old golf course? Tell us in the comments. 

To read more of our coverage of the issue, head to our topic page. 

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Butch Larroche May 10, 2012 at 07:35 PM
My response to this reporters very biased story. "Bobby, why no interviews or quotes from local golfers at Sharp Park? This seems to be a very one sided article about sharp park and very unfair. Did you even come to the course? Maybe some more background from golfers would have been a better way to go. Sharp park is not a course in disrepair as you state. The course has never been in better shape and rounds played continue to rise. It looks as if most of your info on the course came from Miller and Plater which in very unfair and more importantly not true. " As any golfer that plays Sharp's regularly can tell you, the course is in awesome shape right now and the summer months will continue to make it even better.
Jeff Miller May 10, 2012 at 08:32 PM
There is nothing "alleged" about the killing of endangered species by the operations of the golf course. The Park Department acknowledges the continual killing of red-legged frogs in numerous planning documents and court filings. Not the allegations of conservation groups, but rather the admission of the Park Department. Also, the Park Department's unsubstantiated theory that red-legged frogs are more numerous now at Sharp Park has been shot down by not just frog experts, but also the judge in the case, as dubious. - Jeff Miller
Pancho May 11, 2012 at 05:08 AM
i jog and hiked almost every other day on some of the trails of Mori Point and over the Sharp Park Levee and around the golf course for past 15 years. I have never seen a single red legged frog or the infamous red garter snake, so let them prove those species actually exist there, instead of something that maybe someone imported when they search for them.
William H. Gathercole & Norah G May 11, 2012 at 11:55 AM
This golf facility has been under a SIEGE OF ENVIRONMENTAL TERROR under the PRETEXT of somehow protecting obscure and insignificant species. In fact, Sharp Park Golf Course is NOT harming ANY animal species. Not surprisingly, Enviro-Lunatics HATE and DESPISE the Game of Golf. Anti-Golf Organizations have TERRORIZED the City of San Francisco for years over the future of Sharp Park Golf Course. Anti-Golf Terrorism Will NEVER End Unless the Golf Industry STRIKES BACK ! The Golf Industry Should Tell Anti-Golf Activists to Get OFF Our grASS and Roast In Hell. For more information, please go to the following web-pages ... GOLF - SHARP PARK GOLF COURSE ( Web-Page ) http://wp.me/P1jq40-2dz GOLF - THE LOOMING GOLF INDUSTRY SHIPWRECK - NO LONGER A HOPEFUL FUTURE ( Web-Page ) http://wp.me/P1jq40-1N1 GOLF - GO BROWN - ANTI-COSMETIC GOLF MAINTENANCE ( Web-Page ) http://wp.me/P1jq40-2bv U.S. ENVIRONMENTAL TERRORISM - STATE PRE-EMPTION ( Web-Page ) http://wp.me/P1jq40-2hW VICTORIES AGAINST TERRORISTS ! ( Web-Page ) http://wp.me/P1jq40-1JO WILLIAM H. GATHERCOLE AND NORAH G NORAHG is the National Organization Responding Against HUJE that seek to harm the Green space industry. THE PESTICIDE TRUTHS WEB-SITE   http://pesticidetruths.com/ THE COMPLETE LIBRARY OF REPORTS & REFERENCES http://wp.me/P1jq40-2rr
Jeff Miller May 11, 2012 at 02:12 PM
It's a shame you know so little about the ecosystem where you live. The Park Department and independent biologists have found red-legged frogs and SF garter snakes numerous times during wildlife surveys at Sharp Park. Saying they do not exist there or were "imported" is sheer ignorance. See this report: http://wildequity.org/entries/3146
Jeff Miller May 11, 2012 at 02:14 PM
Someone seems to be off their meds. Sorry you are plagued with terrorists in league with government black helicopters. Try taking a deep breath.
Butch Larroche May 11, 2012 at 04:02 PM
Once again the best thing we can do is let Jeff & his sidekick Brent do all the talking. They keep making points that make most normal people shake their heads in disbelief!!!
Dogbert May 11, 2012 at 04:34 PM
Mr. Miller: While you seem to be playing the role of psychologist, in an attempt to be an honest environmentalist, would you please confirm for the participants in this forum the following: 1. Please affirm the claim on the CBD website that over 1.6 million acres in 28 Calif. counties has been designated by USFWS as "critical habitat" for the Calif. Red Legged Frog. (ref: http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/press_releases/2010/california-red-legged-frog-03-16-2010.html ) 2. Please point us to the Federal Register listing where Sharp Park has been designated by US Fish and Wildlife Service as "critical habitat" for the Californa Red Legged Frog and the San Francisco Garter Snake. If you are unable to do so then please acknowledge for the reader the significance of this omission, i.e., USFWS has determined that what happens to the RLF and SFGS at Sharp Park will not affect the survival of the species. 3. Please explain to us your justification for the tactics utilized by the CBD in the Chilton Ranch situation where the CBD was sued by rancher Jim Chilton. Mr. Chilton was awarded a $600,000.00 judgment against CBD which was upheld on appeal. (ref: http://www.bobandbobnm.com/article.php?story=centerforbiological ) 4. How much money does CBD typically collect in legal fees on nuisance lawsuits like Sharp Park? Please confirm for the reader that inevitably the taxpayer is responsible for these fees. Thanks in advance for your response.
Jeff Miller May 11, 2012 at 04:49 PM
Perhaps you should read the recovery plan for the San Francisco garter snake, and then tell me how important the Sharp Park population is to the survival of the species as a whole: http://ecos.fws.gov/speciesProfile/profile/speciesProfile.action?spcode=C002#recovery As for your wise use talking points attempting to slander CBD, not worthy of a response.
Butch Larroche May 11, 2012 at 04:50 PM
Dogbert, do you really expect a response?
Bhatman May 11, 2012 at 05:09 PM
The post by Gathercole appears to a spam bot that flames blogs with their loony-toons conspiracy theories. Any post accusing an individual or a group of people as "terrorist" should be deleted, IMHO.
Bhatman May 11, 2012 at 05:29 PM
You don't speak for "normal people", trust me on this.
Dogbert May 11, 2012 at 05:36 PM
Mr. Miller: Still waiting for you to point the readers to the Federal Register listing where Sharp Park has been designated by US Fish and Wildlife Service as "critical habitat" for the Californa Red Legged Frog and the San Francisco Garter Snake. Still waiting... Jeff Miller says, "As for your wise use talking points attempting to slander CBD, not worthy of a response" Although I don't subscribe to the CBD, Brent Plater, Jeff Miller, et al Academy of the Advanced Usage of Talking Points in the Media, I truly appreciate your acknowledgment that my usage was "wise". Now as to your "slander" claim: since CBD has absolutely no shortage of cash chasing attorneys on their payroll with nothing else to do, and since CBD has NEVER been shy about litigation, I am confident that had I said anything even remotely slanderous (i.e., untrue) about CBD, the Chilton Ranch litigation, USFWS critical habitat designations, or anything else for that matter, that you and CBD would say "lawsuit" faster than an SFGS swallows a RLF. BTW, still waiting....
Bhatman May 11, 2012 at 05:53 PM
Dogbert your funny. You know, sometimes when I'm talking to someone my dog will bark at us for seemingly no reason but we don't feel the need to engage it in conversation. I expect you won't be getting a response anytime soon.
Butch Larroche May 11, 2012 at 06:06 PM
It's ok Bhatman, I don't consider you normal!!!!
Butch Larroche May 11, 2012 at 06:42 PM
All I hear is Frogs croaking!!!!
Bhatman May 11, 2012 at 07:14 PM
lol Butch-boy; you've repeatedly made the "croaking frogs" observation and repeatedly been advised that those are tree frogs you're hearing. So let me ask you, are you just someone who selectively ignores facts you find doesn't fit into your view of the world of is it a short term memory problem?
Butch Larroche May 11, 2012 at 07:22 PM
If that's not the pot calling kettle black Bhatman I don't know what is!!!! Ignoring the facts seems to be a sport for you and your buddies!!! And the Frog croaking comment was for Miller not responding like we know he won't. Maybe I should have said crickets!!! Are those endangered too?
Camden Swita May 11, 2012 at 10:02 PM
Just out of curiosity, when the trial resumes in the fall, which direction do you guys see the judge going?
Dogbert May 11, 2012 at 11:46 PM
All SFRPD has to do at Sharp Park (in light of SP not being designated by USFWS as critical habitat for either the SFGS and RLF) is apply for an incidental take permit with USFWS for the aforementioned species. That's all. Nothing else is required. With permit in hand, the golf course continues as is and the judge will dismiss the lawsuit sending CBD and WEI back to their solar heated caves. Once they are home, CBD and WEI can focus on their next scheme to extract greenbacks from their donors. Expect that it will take the form of yet another environmental solution looking for a problem. The real problem at SP is one of will. The current custodian of SP, i.e., SFRPD, is busy promoting its Natural Areas Program and has an inherent conflict of objectives. The current NAP Director, Lisa Wayne, does not believe in recreation and believes all parks and open space recreation areas should be turned into native plant and wildlife museums. This, of course, is what Miller, Plater, Bhatman, and their extreme environmental donor enclave also want. They could care less if people and their children have obesity issues or heart attacks because if they had their way, causal health issues due to lack of physical activities would thin the human herd. To paraphrase Shakespeare, "First, get rid of the extreme environmental lawyers. Second, get rid of Lisa Wayne and NAP".
Camden Swita May 11, 2012 at 11:59 PM
Do you think it will be easy for SFRPD to get an incidental take permit?
Dogbert May 12, 2012 at 12:26 AM
Lets just say if the SFRPD has had a problem in the past obtaining these permits it might have something to do with Lisa Wayne's recurring decision to INTENTIONALLY flood the golf course fairways and then ask for a permit to move the frog eggs after the frogs have laid them in the flooded fairways. Whatever happened to using the pumps (already bought, paid for and functioning) properly and keeping the fairways drained? As I stated before, it's just a matter of will...
Jeff Miller June 20, 2012 at 02:33 AM
Dogbert - try reading this: http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/press_releases/2012/settlement-fees-06-14-2012.html
Jeff Miller June 20, 2012 at 02:36 AM
A take permit requires measures to protect the wildlife being "taken." They are not handed out like candy, at least not legally. We are talking about one of the most endangered native snakes in the country. Dogbert, try reading something other than tea party nonsense: http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/news/press_releases/2012/settlement-fees-06-14-2012.html

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