Pregnant Pacifica Woman Killed By Pet Pit Bull
The mauling happened Thursday afternoon on Reina Del Mar Avenue.
Update, Aug. 16: Female Pit Bull Released to Husband of Mauling Victim
Update, Aug. 15: Coroner: Prelim Autopsy Results Show Pit Bull "Responsible For This Attack"
A 32-year-old pregnant woman from Pacifica was attacked and killed by her family's pet pit bull Thursday, police said.
Pacifica Police received a 911 call at approximately 12:15 p.m. about a possible dog mauling in the 500 block of Reina Del Mar Avenue. The first officer to arrive on the scene located the victim, Darla Napora, lying in the front room of her home, Pacifica Police Chief Jim Tasa said.
"The victim had major trauma, was not breathing or responsive," Tasa said.
The first responders' efforts to revive the woman were not successful.
The victim's husband, who had called the police and was at the scene when they arrived, told police that their 2-year-old male pit bull had attacked his wife after he left for work. He said the dog had been secured in their backyard before he left.
While paramedics and fire department personnel were tending to the victim, the dog escaped from the backyard and began approaching them in the front yard. Police officers shot the dog three times, killing it, Tasa said.
The victim has been released to the San Mateo County Coroner's Office and the dog's body was released to San Mateo County Animal Control.
There was a second dog, another pit bull, in the backyard. It and the deceased dog were taken to the Peninsula Humane Society for examination.
An autopsy for the woman and a necropsy for the dog are scheduled to take place Friday.
Pacifica police are conducting an investigation of the incident.
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Alicia de Leon
5:51 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011
Very sad indeed!!!
Julia Boyle
6:08 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011
How Tragic
Stephen Benoit
7:25 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011
Is it confirmed that the dog is in fact the cause of her death and didn't react to something that happened to her? I've heard similar stories before...
Doug Robinson
8:15 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011
Lets wait for the autopsy I talked to the police and will wait for the professionals to make a decision I have been a police officer and a detective for several years. This is my daughter and I will wait for the evidence. I love you Darla. I will always miss you. You will always be my baby. Love You.
Angela De Benedetto Fioresi
6:17 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011
Dear Mr. Robinson,
I am saddened to hear of the passing of your daughter. My thoughts are with you at this time.
Robin BrutallyHonest Holliman
7:34 am on Sunday, August 14, 2011
Bless your heart Mr. Robinson, my condolences and may God be with you & your family, now and forever... Rest in Paradise, Darla and baby.
Kimberly Olivas
8:44 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011
So Sad, Doug I am sorry for your loss
Maija Hughes Murphy
8:54 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011
Doug, we are so very sorry for your loss - we live just up the street by the school. Bless you and your family. I hope you get the answers soon. xxoo
CAROL KIRKPATRICK
9:08 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011
Doug our prayers go out to you and your family. What a tragic thing to happen. Yes lets wait on the decision of the professionals and see what possibly went wrong. God bless you.
Stephanie Benoit
9:11 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011
Doug. My heart goes out to you and the whole family.
Dan Crowley
10:25 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011
We didn't know Darla well, but every time we spent time with her at Capellini's or at 231 she was a delight to be around. We found ourselves more and more dining with her at the bar rather than at a table simply because we enjoyed her company. We chatted about so many different things, but it was clear she loved her pets. This devastating news has burned us with grief. Please accept our profound condolences to Darla’s family and friends.
Janet Arline Barker
10:27 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011
What a tragic event. I am so sorry for the loss of 2 lives. I would love to see a picture of Darla instead of the mean-looking dog.
Mandy tapia
10:37 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011
Doug, I was an old friend of Darla's and she was one of the most beautiful person I have ever meet. She ment so much to me and she will be so very missed.
Tyroanee
11:00 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011
I don't see a picture of a mean dog from this article, just a really confused scared one. (the one accused has been shot dead)
This loss is great for sure, but the facts are still not known, so speculation is not warranted here.
Karen
3:53 am on Friday, August 12, 2011
THANK YOU! I just said the same thing. The dog is obviously in distress. Read my post.
kuuipo
11:09 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011
@Doug: As a parent I cannot imagine your loss and can only send you heartfelt condolences. I am so sorry for your loss. You and your family are in my prayers.
Alison
11:23 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011
I don't think this is the actual dog. The 2 year old make was a blue nose pit and thus picture is not a blue nose.
Camden Swita
11:35 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011
Editor's Note: it's not the actual dog, it's just a picture of a pit bull for illustration.
Barbara Baker
3:47 am on Friday, August 12, 2011
why put that picture up there at all? What kind of reporting is that? it is horrible and sad what happened to this young woman, but sensationalizing the story helps no one.
Sue Walters
12:27 am on Friday, August 12, 2011
Darold Larson of Yakima, Wash., said his daughter was athletic and had a great sense of humor. She had moved to the Bay Area with a family member and married Greg two years ago in Las Vegas.
there is an false posting on this site.
Concerned Citizen
1:38 am on Friday, August 12, 2011
I believe Doug's post to be honest - Darla's maiden name was Robinson, she would have been born in 1978 or 1979 and Darold Larson was married in 1984. Editor - please put his post back up - it was important enough for him to post and it felt real to me
Mandy tapia
2:27 am on Friday, August 12, 2011
Editor, Doug is Darla's father please be respectful and put back his post. Darla was born in January 1979 and he is her father.
Anne
3:05 am on Friday, August 12, 2011
This is an awful tragedy. The dog in question adored Darla, and Darla adored that dog. Reporting it as the dog purposely killed her just doesn't feel right. The media once again is sensationalizing before all of the facts and evidence have been analyzed. I believe that as dog lovers and community members, we owe thispoor woman & her family the decency to not to jump to conclusions. Furthermore, using a random stock photo of the pit bull type dog has no relevance to this story & is irresponsible reporting. It is not even confirmed the dog in question was a "pit bull." Just because the media or police report it was, doesn't make it true. The dog involved was a massive dog; thus, most likely mixed with another breed. Pit bulls are not that huge. Putting a picture up of a pit bull type dog that is not the actual dog does nothing but distract from the story, which is a wonderful member of our community was lost. In memory of this sweet woman, her photo should have be used. Don't become "one of them," Pacifica patch (media outlets that sensationalize & exploit pit bulls.) Think you know what a pit bull looks like? Give it a try - http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Findthebull/findpitbull_v3.html
Karen
3:56 am on Friday, August 12, 2011
I whole-heartedly agree with you. Read my post. I couldn't have said it better myself.
rcarol
6:21 am on Friday, August 12, 2011
Dogs don't kill people, it's the people themselves who have not provided dogs with training, love and understanding their breed that are responsible for acts such as this. The story said the dog was "tied up outside before the husband left for work." Why have a dog at all if you have to tie it up? I was once viciously attacked on my legs by a young dog (small breed) in the home of someone that I visited while considering adopting it. Needless to say, it didn't come home with me.
kuuipo
1:44 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011
I believe the story indicated the dog had been "secured" outside which may or may not mean 'tied up...'. However, if the dog was tied up then I have to agree with you that people shouldn't own them, although more out of animal cruelty and neglect than anything else.
Courtney Carmack Adams
3:07 am on Sunday, August 14, 2011
I completely understand the quick-to-judge reactions of the masses. However, Darla and Greg are/were two of the most responsible, loving and giving pet owners that I have ever met. I have owned pits myself, and never had an issue, but you never know. This couple always had the dogs in mind - they moved to Pacifica so that the dogs could have a yard, and Darla took them out every single day for a walk or run. She and Greg loved those dogs and always put them first. So I would really appreciate them not being lumped into the "irresponsible pet owner" category. Thanks. Go to some other board to espouse your ignorant assumptions - our community is grieving for a wonderful person who was taken too soon, and that is what this post should be about. I am sure there are many other forums in which you can thrust your uneducated views into other people's faces - but this is about Darla and her beautiful baby. If you had known her, you would never have the motivation to speculate and pass judgment on an issue you know nothing about.
kuuipo
12:12 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011
@Courtney: I don't doubt Darla was a fantastic person who adored and doted on her dogs...but don't you see how that fuels the pre-existing fear in others about the breed? If someone who so cared about her dogs could suffer a mortal attack from one, then doesn't that dilute your argument that ALL pits are docile??? Step back a moment and try to see the other side. It's a tragedy without measure and that is a given. I never stated nor implied she was an irresponsible pet owner. Read my words carefully. I stated "If" the dog was tied up...But truly, IF a dog is tied up for hours and not allowed to interact with the family as a member of the household, then I would happily make an argument that was not a loving act nor was it an adored member of the family. C'mon now.
Cris
9:59 am on Monday, August 15, 2011
Dogs kill people. They really really do. Having survived a dog attack at the age of 8, I can say: "Dogs kill people" Yeah, humans can help them along towards that end, but dogs are still animals, just like humans. Humans kill people, dogs kill people. Don't blame the owners for an animal that they ultimate do NOT have control over.
Jesse Dudley
8:36 am on Friday, September 9, 2011
Or, in the case of Pit Bulls, the owners who have the mental issues to own them in the first place. There has never been a reported mauling by a Pit Bull that was shot dead first.
Michele McGee
8:22 am on Friday, August 12, 2011
This story has a link on Drudge to : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2025207/Darla-Napora-Pregnant-woman-dies-mauled-pet-dog-living-room.html
has pictures and more details
lindsey
10:05 am on Friday, August 12, 2011
when i was pregnant i had a pit bull lunge toward me.. maybe its something to do with the hormones pg women put off that may trigger aggression in a normally docile loving animal?? just a thought.....
kuuipo
10:18 am on Friday, August 12, 2011
My own dog was quite curious about me during my pregnancy and began behaving differently within my first few weeks of pregnancy, before I knew I was pregnant. He wasn't in any way aggressive, but certainly far more curious than usual. I think there is absolutely something to the notion the dog sensed his owner was different given she was pregnant. With the incredibly sensitive sense of smell dogs have vs. humans, it seems quite reasonable the dog detected that which we cannot. In any event, a supreme tragedy all the way around.
JW
8:46 am on Saturday, August 13, 2011
Could someone please explain to me what her being pregnant may have had to do with the attack? It would be good to hear from a professional if there is a reason a dog would attack her specifically because she was pregnant.
kuuipo
12:35 pm on Saturday, August 13, 2011
@JW: Dogs are keen to sense and smell changes in human body chemistry. In this case, Darla was pregnant, therefore her body had that particular hormone present unlike a non-pregnant woman. I am neither stating the pit attacked nor am I stating that is the reason, if indeed that was the case. I am merely pointing out dogs can and often do smell changes in chemistry; e.g. pregnancy, pre-cardiac arrest, etc.
JW
12:54 pm on Saturday, August 13, 2011
Thanks, Kuuipo. I understand there is a chemical/hormonal change that can be detected. The question is, why would that make a dog more aggressive toward her? A vet or animal behaviorist would be helpful here.
I don't think the example of pre-cardiac arrest applies because in that case, the animal alerts the human to changes he/she might not notice for themselves (ie, the animal is helpful, not aggressive). Unless dogs are known to be aggressive to humans right before cardiac arrest, which is something I haven't heard.
kuuipo
1:25 pm on Saturday, August 13, 2011
@JW: Here's a link that may be of help to you in answering your question...or perhaps even raising more...nevertheless, speaks to the link between dogs and changes in human chemistry: http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local&id=8304683
kuuipo
1:31 pm on Saturday, August 13, 2011
@JW: And another which reiterates the first link, speaking to how preceding a heart attack or seizure while even medical monitoring units could detect no changes in brainwaves, dogs could smell the chemicals released into the bloodstream preceding the attack or seizure. Neither link states a dog is certain to attack as a result, but if someone were to claim such it would appear to be anecdotal. http://www.examiner.com/pet-life-in-national/dogs-can-save-our-lives-by-alerting-us-to-heart-attacks-and-seizures-zeus-did
JW
7:41 pm on Saturday, August 13, 2011
Thanks, Kuuipo for the articles. You were right - the first one raised a question (my original one). Given that there are changes in a woman's blood chemistry when she's pregnant, WHY would that make a dog aggressive toward her? I'm interested to know why the scent of pregnancy hormones would trigger aggression.
kuuipo
8:34 pm on Saturday, August 13, 2011
@JW: Any evidence that a dog has attacked or will attack a pregnant person is, at this point, anecdotal and assumptive. With regard to this specific tragedy, since we don't know with certainty she was attacked by the pit or that it was triggered by something instead of or in addition to her pregnancy, it seems further discussion on the topic is academic.
steve
12:06 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011
prayers to you from pastor steve and pscifica baptist church
Phyllis McArthur
12:08 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011
On July 9th 2010 at the dog park in Foster City after attacking another dog leaving her almost dead, the pit bull then turned on his owner, clamped on to his hand and would not let go, there was blood everywhere. I'm not one of "Those People" however if it was my terrior mix, I could have handled it.
Stephanie McCracken
1:37 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011
Yes. Sterilize all (pit) terriers and the people who breed to have them to be aggressive will move onto doberman's, rotts, shepherds, or akitas....it's a people problem...they should be the ones sterilized.
Edunham44@yahoo.com
1:37 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011
tragic yes, preventable yes, when will people ever learn about this vicious breed. it is well documented the risks they pose. it is sad the family had to learn this lesson the hard way.
Stephanie McCracken
1:41 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011
I've known golden retrievers that have had to be destroyed for becoming dangerously aggressive. More often then not, it was a neurological problem. Sterilize all terrier type dogs and the people who breed them for aggession (and size) wil move onto dobermans, rotts, shepherds, and akitas (who are normally one hundred pound dogs). It's a people problem...the ones breeding for these negative traits are the ones who should be sterilized.
My heart goes out to this young woman's family. Their loss is truly tragic.
Stephanie McCracken
1:42 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011
I've personally know two golden retrievers that had to be destroyed for becoming dangerously aggressive. Both were in loving homes, both cases were nuerological problems that came up as the dog achieved adulthood.
Alexandra abreu
1:51 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011
Hey i'm very sorry for ur lost ! I don't not know ur daughter at all I live in San Bruno ca and I saw the report on the news paper and now I find my self here in this page and by reading some of this comments it breaks my heart that some of u are making this tragety alot more harder for the family of the victm please people give ur support by keeping the family in ur prayers and let the officers of the law and evidences speak for it's self !once again I am sport for ur lost and I will keep u and ur family in my prayers ,god bless you and be strong !
syreeta young
2:20 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011
Thank you Courtney, Darla loved those animals and those of us who loved her are in pain, please respect that and the references to things not sounding right let that go this was a loving family, PERIOD!!
Barbara Baker
4:35 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011
syreeta, I can understand Daria's love for her animals. And I understand and respect your wish for no more speculation. There will be no more coming from me.
John Shutz
4:46 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011
This is a very sad story and my sympathies go out to Darla and her family. I just wanted to say there are some loose ends that need answering before, as others have pointed out, any conclusions are drawn.
The autopsy and DNA transfer will be revealing. There is always an outside chance Darla may have let the dog in as she sensed fear of a break-in, afterall, we have some dogs as protectors and family pets as well. Many Pits are not that big and if in fact an intruder attacked and the Pit got involved in the struggle, there my be the suspect's blood there too. However, if her blood is found on the dog, I hope the authorities don't immediately conclude its there due to the attack. Simple dog prints in blood will tell you if the dog was in the house, but in most homicides the dog will try to comfort his owner and that might be the cause of any blood transfer. The blood evidence will tell alot about what happened, I just hope it wasn't too destroyed by the husband and responding EMTs.
The shooting of the dog is another event that has to be scrutinized. Too many times authorities shoot first and ask questions later and its always the "threatening move" that preceeds the shooting. Whether with domestic or wild animals.
As the Dad indicated, wait until the facts are in. I hope assumptions are put aside in favor of the truth. I hate to say it, but everyone is suspect at this time, even the husband.
kuuipo
6:06 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011
@John: Really good food for thought. Thank you.
goodwolves
11:59 am on Tuesday, August 16, 2011
Our hearts go out for the famlies effected by this tragic death. We live near this home as a matter of fact so close we heard the gun fire. That being said WHENEVER something like this happens EVERYTHING MUST BE CONSIDERED. Yes, NO stone should be left unturned. Because "no one" was there as a witness; ANYTHING is possible. The only thing I know for sure is that the house that this tragic death happend in is TINY; I was going to buy it as investment many years ago. That being said YES you have to question WHY they would have had 2 large dogs (a male UN NETURED & female that WAS spayed) living in such a TINY place. The yard was not secured otherwise the dog would not have escaped & been shot by the police. So YES there are a lot of questions. And they NEED to be answered or investigated. We are talking about a tiny one bedroom with a tiny yard; ANY dog breed that is NOT nueterd ABSOLUTELY has the potential to kill & mame. You can ask any Vet they will tell you that truth. Owning a male (or female) that is not sterilized is iresponsible unless YOU are planning to breed them for a DARN GOOD REASON. So yes there are MANY QUESTIONS that concerned citizens SHOULD be asking. We have a right to know ALL the facts & the POLICE have an obligation to throughly investigate this tragic death. At the end of the day the TRUTH can be much stranger than fiction. These kinds of things are beyond the grieving families need for empathy which we really have compassion for.
Alexandra abreu
5:35 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011
Omg can u all please stop the guessing game please !can u please just put your selfs on DARLA'S FAMILY'S SHOES for one second and fell all the pain that they all are going thru cause I have and it brought tears into my eyes cause they didn't just lost DARLA but also DARLAS BABY ,and I'm not a friend neither do I know anyone of the family members Im a complete stranger !
kuuipo
6:08 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011
@Alexandra: You sound very upset. Perhaps you should consider refraining from reading any further comments. It might just exacerbate your state. Some comments are terrible, but we can't control what people say nor should we. If we did, your plea would not have been posted. You might uncheck the request to receive notifications when people add additional comments.
Concerned
5:53 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011
Pacifca's finest? I think " NOT "!!!!!
Alexandra abreu
6:26 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011
Dear Darla's family first of all my heart is with u all and I am very sorry for both of your lost . I know you and your family are in much pain and I ask god on my prayers to give you all straight as hard it's to wait for all ur answers and I pray with all my heart that you get the truth so your family try to move on with their lifes .I hope you get the outcome that you all wait for may god give u straight andgive u some kind of peace into ur hearts .my sympathies for your lost once again and prayers for your family from San bruno's prayer group !
Alexandra abreu
6:48 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011
@Kuuipo I belive everyone as the right of their opion but I also belive that theirs a time and place for it and this not the time for it and I am not angry I'm heart broken to see that people are playing csi guessing games when this family is going thru a tragic moment !they need support not drama !god bless and have a good nite Kuuipo
Susan
7:57 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011
My condolences to the family...what a terrible tragedy. Some of the posters here seem to have known Darla and the dogs. Could you shed a little light on where these dogs came from? I think the speculation is natural....a story like this is almost impossible to comprehend. People are desperate to make sense of it.
Did they buy the dogs from a back yard breeder? Many breeders that sell pit bulls seem to advertise their dogs aggression as a selling point. Perhaps the intention was to get a pit bull for protection, and they underestimated the the difficulty in owning a poorly bred, powerful dog with an unstable temperament.
kuuipo
8:12 pm on Friday, August 12, 2011
@Susan: I think it's great you express your condolences to the family. I also agree that speculation is a natural response but, with all due respect, it seems your posting is more like veiled speculation than anything sincere in support of the family. I believe the latest is that both an autopsy and necropsy would be performed for additional information. Period.
Tate Redwolf
9:40 am on Saturday, August 13, 2011
Well funny how its being said today that the lady fell from a ladder, and the dog was nudging her when the husband arrived according to Her Neighbors. http://www.examiner.com/american-pit-bull-in-national/pacifica-dog-mauling-what-really-happened-1
Camden Swita
9:50 am on Saturday, August 13, 2011
Tate, this is an Examiner opinion piece from an author who writes positive stories about pit bulls, not a news story.
Jenny Humphris
12:07 pm on Saturday, August 13, 2011
My condolences go out to Darla's family and her husband Greg! Darla was also a friend of mine, and I can tell you that she was one of the most charismatic, beautiful, spunky, happy people I have ever had the pleasure of knowing! My heart hurts and I am saddened by what happened to her! Darla, you will forever be missed! You have taken a piece of so many people's hearts with you when you left this Earth! May your soul (and that of your unborn baby) rest in peace! We love you and miss you! Your infectious smile will forever be carved into the memories of so many people!
tina
2:19 pm on Saturday, August 13, 2011
could this be true? i feel so much for everyone involved. it's hard to believe her beloved dog could do this. http://www.examiner.com/american-pit-bull-in-national/pacifica-dog-mauling-what-really-happened-1
Sheela Na Gig
5:54 pm on Saturday, August 13, 2011
no. its an opinion piece. She quotes what looks like comments from a comments section of an article, but she doesn't even link to where those came from. Or, it could have been a "lead" sent to her. In any case, there is no substantiation.
Several news stories had direct quotes from police officers describing subtantial upper body trauma with bites all over.
Betsy Weathers
9:30 pm on Saturday, August 13, 2011
My deepest symapthy for this young lady's family. I am so very sorry for your loss. She sounds like she was a wonderful person.
Barbara Baker
9:44 am on Sunday, August 14, 2011
From the comments from people who knew this young mother-to-be, she loved her animals, took great care of them, they were obedient and well-trained and were devoted to her. What happened here could not be foreseen. It is a horrid, unimaginable tragedy. Period.
Sarah Pukelin & Rush Limpball
3:20 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011
"Could not be foreseen"? Really? You don't know what pit bulls were created to do?
kb
6:53 pm on Sunday, August 14, 2011
Wow sarah!! Sounds like you are another uneducated and ignorant person when it comes to the breed. The family is grieving over the loss of their loved one. Best you just quiet down.
kuuipo
12:37 am on Monday, August 15, 2011
@karen: Don't sweat it. "Sarah" apparently posted a number of similarly flavored postings within a very condensed period of time. Seems like whomever it was had intended just to stir things up and nothing more. I saw the numerous postings and decided to ignore them because, well, frankly they were worth ignoring. Their screen name should give you some idea as to the sophomoric mentality of the individual anyway. I hope the family can overlook the idiotic rants some have posted here and petty nature of the commenting individual.
steve
7:03 am on Monday, August 15, 2011
prayers from pacifica baptist church and pastor steve for your losses, 650-892-5515
Don Goodspeed
2:27 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011
It is unfortunate to hear but the results are now showing the one pit bull to be responsible. Let us be respectful in our comments for the sake of the family, however.
kuuipo
2:29 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011
@Don: I'm with you. Let's think of the family first and foremost.
Stu
9:32 pm on Monday, August 15, 2011
What I find to be incredible is how there are still people who, no matter what, still come to the defense of the pit bulls everytime they attack, maul, or kill. The same old stories about how their pit is such a wonderful family dog; great with children, wouldn't hurt anyone, must have been something that startled it, needs to be neutered, it's a bad owner, and on and on and on. Many victims of pit bull attacks were owners who used to say these same things until it happened in their own homes. Just do an internet search for pit bull attacks and read the stories. These incidents involving the pit bull breed are everywhere and near daily. Has to be neutered? That's great. That's the type of animal I want to bring home to my family; one that comes with a warning label that reads:" Be sure to neuter your new pet or it may kill you." Certainly all breeds will nip, bite, and fight with other animals, but not all breeds make the determined effort to kill, and the effort to kill humans, on such a consistent basis. The pit bull breed should be regulated just like a tiger, lion, chimp, or other dangerous animal is. It's understandable that the owner of a pit bull will be defensive of any criticism, but there comes a time when you can't be so biased and naive that you ignore facts and reality. Wake up people! Take your blinders off, lest you become part of a tragic statistic yourself. And if you won't, then consider increasing your insurance policies.
Barbara Baker
2:34 pm on Tuesday, August 16, 2011
Bill, no one is coming to the defense of a dog who bites, maims or kills anyone. What people are saying is that generally the breed is a wonderful pet. Check out the description in the American Kennel Club. I have had three. Two lived to 14 years old and one to 12. They were as most who have loved and owned them describe them. In all of their 14 years they never menaced anyone, bit anyone. They were great companions. Why discredit what our experience has been? Thousands of households have pit bulls as pets, they are therapy dogs, they work in schools as rescue dogs. One of my dogs was a therapy dog visiting the elderly once a week. So how do you explain my experience with three pit bulls over a long period of time? I am not an apologist, I am stating facts from experience.
kb
3:18 pm on Tuesday, August 16, 2011
Barbara, Thanks for the comment. I have a beautiful 8 year old blue nose who is so sweet and gentle. Loves kids, people etc. I feel bad for the good ones who get the bad looks and glares when walking down the street.
H.avery
11:56 am on Wednesday, August 17, 2011
All of the comments above are legit and sincere. However I wish the debate would shift to the core issues instead of all the secondary issues. Here is the problem that exists and can't be dealt with in any meaningful way.
1. The "agressive" breeds, you know the ones I mean, can sense fear in people and animals. All dogs can. Only SOME dogs can take down a human.
2. Fear, esp. fear of dogs can be close to impossible to grow out of. I know because I have had it ALL MY LIFE. I'm 65 y.o.
3. Voice commands are not enough to stop some dogs in some situations and some people can't even control their aggressive dog even with all the choke collars and chains.
Add the 3 points together and you have the perfect storm. It can happen in an instant. I was attacked 2 different times by wild cats. Both of them my "pets". The first time it was a high pitched squeel sound I made that set the cat off. Many puncture wounds to the legs. The second time with a different cat I simply either rolled over in my sleep or accidently flopped my arm around and the cat attacked me horribly in the face. Bottom line is unless you can completely guarantee that the dog will not MAUL (not bite) anyone EVER it should be kept away from humans and other dogs at all times. (No, not the backyard). Just like any other wild animal.
JDavis
5:24 pm on Friday, August 19, 2011
While I am not afraid of dogs, I have to agree with your assessment...on all counts. Thank you H.avery.
Kym
12:46 pm on Wednesday, August 17, 2011
I am very sorry to the family and friends of the two lives that were lost in this situation. No matter what the circumstances(we don't know for sure), the tragedy of death is always painful. There is always going to be people against 'pit bulls' (to the ignorant ones here, this is NOT a breed) Yes, they are very loving and loyal animals. MOST of those who 'trash' them have not known one personally, but only what they have heard,or seen,or been told. We ALL have horror stories about certain breeds. I for instance would NEVER allow my children around cocker spaniels.They can be VERY mean and attack for no apparant reason.(I have been around dogs my whole life. My mother was a dog trainer,and I have worked in veterinarian offices for many years.)
But unfortunatly,these attacks, bites etc. that happen by other breeds (regardless of size)are not reported to animal control,the vets office,humane society, the police, or the news. And yes, every breed is capable of mauling,attacking, and maiming.
Maybe, we should wait for the facts before jumping to conclusions. Did you read the story about the rottweiler that was shot for 'attacking and killing' his senior citizen owner? Yeah, he was covored in blood too along with his owner. Yes, the cops shot the dog and come to find out she had a heart attack and he was trying to drag her to her front door to safety??!! Really mean dog right?! WOW! If its not the 'pit bull' it will be the dobie,or the presa canario or the german shepherd.
kb
1:22 pm on Wednesday, August 17, 2011
kym, Right on!! Thanks for that info. Very well put!
Stu
1:41 pm on Wednesday, August 17, 2011
I can't recall any stories about anyone being mauled and killed by their pet Cocker Spaniel recently. Perhaps because they don't have a thirst for blood and killing whatever they might decide they don't like. Sure, Rots have somewhat of a reputation for being aggressive and dangerous, and so do mountain lions and rattlesnakes, but those figures are far outnumbered by pit bull attacks. The reason pit bull attacks make the news is because they are so frequent and usually horribly violent. You are 'assuming' that those who "trash" them have not known one, but you have no real knowledge of that. If you take a look at the comment above from John Kalubafek, you'll notice that your comments mirror what he described.
DustyBaker
3:55 pm on Wednesday, August 17, 2011
Kym.
The report clearly shows the animal was responsible for her death.
Please spare us the lines about how pit bulls are misunderstood little angels. I have known several pit bulls and some of them are very, very nice dogs, but they are solid muscle and built to fight and these were females. In fact, I remember a friend in college who had the sweetest little girl pit bull and the scariest male pit bull. The male became aggressive with him and he had to shoot it in the head in his backyard.
Anyone who has been at a dog park knows that when someone comes in with a pit bull, everything changes. My dog which is a mutt has been attacked several times at Funston by pit bulls. They start playing and it gets a little rougher and eventually the pit snaps and goes on the attack.
I'm not advocating culling pit bulls, but I think ALL dogs need to be spayed and neutered with the exception of careful breeders who ensure no inbreeding, with the enormous numbers of pit bulls in pounds around the country there seems to be a larger problem with this specific breed (chihuahuas too).
It is obscene that an owner of a pit bull or any other male dog would choose to keeps the animal intact so that the animal can appear more masculine or any other reason they may have.
All dogs should be fixed, but sterilization of pit bulls should be mandatory.
Rhetoric can always be disproved by fact if one cares to look.
kb
6:58 pm on Wednesday, August 17, 2011
Ist of all "Dusty Baker" what kind of person would shoot a dog in the back yard? What does that tell you about your "college friend" Owner??? Second of all, When I take my 8 year old 90 lb pit to the dog park he is the joy of all. Everyone loves him and sees his smile. He is very well manored! I do agree with you on the neutering. I volounteer at the local humane society and there are many beautiful pits that need homes. We don't need to over poplulate them because to many people are ignorant regarding the breed.
Stu
9:32 am on Saturday, August 20, 2011
The joy of all? How presumptuous is that? to say that your pit bull at the dog park is "the joy of all" and "Everyone loves him." And he smiles too? Wow! I hate to burst your bubble, KB, but not everyone sharing the dog park loves your dog, even though you might like to think so. How can you have an unbiased, realistic approach to the problems associated with pit bulls when you can't even be realistic about your own?
Conrad Peterson
2:31 pm on Friday, August 19, 2011
Mariana, the ladder story was shown to be false several days ago. Also, the coroner's report confirms that the dog killed her. Please read the other articles and related reports.
Condolences
1:41 pm on Thursday, August 25, 2011
Wake up people! The murdering, horrendous pit bull is NOT a victim...are you kidding me? Do you feel sorry for Charles Manson or Scott Peterson? Please...stop feeling sorry for the dog...he was a pit bull...enough said. The real victims are the lovely woman, her unborn child, her poor husband who had to see such an awful sight and the rest of her loving family and friends. I am terribly sorry for your loss.
Condolences
1:47 pm on Thursday, August 25, 2011
....my dog has been attacked by a pit bull, actually TWO different pit bulls on two different occasions! She is a sweet retriever..I was scared for my dog's life!! Thank the Lord that she wasn't killed, just shaken up! To those who think people "love" to see your pit bull at the park..you are sadly mistaken. We FEAR your dog, ever notice how people leash up their dogs and leave. Do us a favor and not bring your aggressive animals where we take our nice dogs and our children.
Stu
8:50 pm on Thursday, August 25, 2011
Exactly!
Charles
6:33 pm on Saturday, December 17, 2011
Stray Pit Bull saves woman and child from attacker (A must read)!
http://www.piaberrend.org/stray-pit-bull-saves-woman-child-from-attacker/